Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP.
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well, it mentions handlers within 30 seconds, which was your counter; that I had no evidence of handlers
furthermore, his threats during the hashwar were prevented to some extent via his new investor, or shell company roundabout investor, calvin ayre
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furthermore, his threats during the hashwar were prevented to some extent via his new investor, or shell company roundabout investor, calvin ayre
He mentioned a PR firm, but not by name. Calling them handlers is an exaggeration. I weigh my evidence before throwing it out there. One's credulity belies one's credibility. Does CSW seem like the kind of person that can be "handled"? #freebritney
Yeah about his threats, promises, and pinkie-swears, He's human. Words are cheap. I try not to judge people on what they haven't done. Writing the Bitcoin White Paper and code speaks louder than spoken words. I suppose he lies. We all lie, especially to protect ourselves and our loved ones. Lying is only a crime under special circumstances and he hasn't crossed that line. If and why he lies is conjecture.
Yeah about his threats, promises, and pinkie-swears, He's human. Words are cheap. I try not to judge people on what they haven't done. Writing the Bitcoin White Paper and code speaks louder than spoken words. I suppose he lies. We all lie, especially to protect ourselves and our loved ones. Lying is only a crime under special circumstances and he hasn't crossed that line. If and why he lies is conjecture.
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great video "Numpties: BSV as Anti-Crypto, Duros, and Branding with Alex Agut"
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why would csw be beholden to a public relations firm? who hired them? I don't understand what you don't understand.
I laughed when my dad hired a publicist. They made him a Kentucky Colonel.
Who knows why people do that? His people skills suck for one thing.
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Extraordinary Claims Require Extraordinary Proof - Dr. Craig Wright Blog
Yesterday, Andreas Antonopoulos posted a fantastic piece on Reddit. Andreas said something critically important and it bears repeating: “I think the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto does not matter”. He’s absolutely right. It doesn’t – and shouldn’t – matter to the Bitcoin community. I cannot deny...
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The "set in stone" argument is true for everything that has already been restored to the original functionality.
Since Genesis 99% has been restored and will stay.
The biggest change yet to come is the restoration of the difficulty adjustment algorithm.
But this has only an effect on miners and wallets.
If you use Bitcoin for your business (mining aside) this change should not affect you and hence for these businesses the protocol can already been regarded as set in stone.
I don't believe in any human endeavor. We are all fucked. We were fucked into existence, we'll be fucked if we're lucky, and we'll be fucked at the end. What I do believe about BSV is that it is the best designed "information is money" scheme invented. If you don't see that, I don't have time to teach you, sorry.
This is how BTC advocates get those crazy numbers of 19 million or more transactions per second on BTC.
When they lose an argument they just redefine the meaning of definitions to their advantage.
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You don't even have time to support your own arguments.
if you don't believe me or don't get it...
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on the whole it is an important narrative to signal to investors they can reliably build on the platform.
in the context of craig wrights legal arguments, its laughable, is technically untrue, and ironically BSV would be the centralized security by any reasonable metric.
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might need a time machine.
I'm being critical here and now, as i should have been in 2018.
The path is different but the end looks the same.
Bad decisions that fuck BSV uptake over time.
The difference to 2018 is the number of claims made that had not failed yet.
Claim to fail ratio is very high now, and btc/bsv , bch/bsv ratio very low.
Let me know if you would like an explanation on the importance of market price.
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what happens if I say nothing?
more people buy shares in a courtroom farce, and lose their money.
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Time machine isn't an argument. But like a time machine, you do waste a lot of time with non-arguments. So you think BSV is not performing the way you want? I see the low price of BSV as a boon to smart young people to possibly (standard disclaimer, not financial advice) get in on the opportunity of a lifetime that our generation squandered on greed and shortsightedness. Good for them. BSV is performing brilliantly. Smart money saw what was happening and didn't dump their BTC too soon. They use DCA, in and out.
As I've said before, the courtroom antics are probably a publicity stunt for risk awareness of this emerging tech. Your virtue signalling and concern trolling about people losing their money is poor form here. You use a lot of daytrader terminology. That is adorable.
You laugh at Creg. I laugh with him. Time will tell. I play the long game. People only lose money when they spend more than they can afford to lose.
Time machine isn't an argument. But like a time machine, you do waste a lot of time with non-arguments. So you think BSV is not performing the way you want? I see the low price of BSV as a boon to smart young people to possibly (standard disclaimer, not financial advice) get in on the opportunity of a lifetime that our generation squandered on greed and shortsightedness. Good for them. BSV is performing brilliantly. Smart money saw what was happening and didn't dump their BTC too soon. They use DCA, in and out.
As I've said before, the courtroom antics are probably a publicity stunt for risk awareness of this emerging tech. Your virtue signalling and concern trolling about people losing their money is poor form here. You use a lot of daytrader terminology. That is adorable.
You laugh at Creg. I laugh with him. Time will tell. I play the long game. People only lose money when they spend more than they can afford to lose.
In hindsight everyone who stayed longer in BTC will tell you that they were the smart money.
But I think they are just the economic illiterate and social media sibyl attack influenced.
The BTC reasoning is circular.
BTC is the best because it has the highest price and it has the highest price because it is the best.
I have to admit that this strategy works much longer than I thought.
The CSW court cases don't help either.
It would be great if he invested this energy for building real products on BSV instead.
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get rekt sir
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youre talking past me and pumping bsv.
shameful.
Nah, they just don't get emotional about trading. Using cost averaging may not make you rich quickly, but it lets you take advantage of trends instead of using day trading techniques that are gamed. Sure there are some believers that fell for the psyop and some of them are paper rich, but will probably get badly burnt because fundamentals. Another benefit of Cost Averaging is having time to find better ways to divest. Sure BSV is good, but don't get greedy and buy too much all at once. So it's not so much that smart money hung onto their BTC intentionally, it's just what they do.
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ditto
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recap on my arguments:
hashwar claims by csw directly damaged bsv in the marketplace, by causing delistings, which reduces speculator interest, which in turn reduces development interest, which retards the potential of bsv over time.
series of losses by csw has resulted in scorched earth level emotional grudge, which history has shown leads to more failure.
this time however, the approach is even more off the mark
hashwar claims by csw directly damaged bsv in the marketplace, by causing delistings, which reduces speculator interest, which in turn reduces development interest, which retards the potential of bsv over time.
series of losses by csw has resulted in scorched earth level emotional grudge, which history has shown leads to more failure.
this time however, the approach is even more off the mark
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some say this is a sign of things to come from csw's legal escapades...
I would say there are many ways in which csw's opponents can subvert his legal approaches, such as nullifying their effect beforehand, and not many ways csw can foist attacks legally.
Just as all of the narrative of his surrounding the hashwar was wiped away by the opponents maneuvers, so will the court battle likely be largely sidestepped and outgamed.
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bsv protocol: lightyears ahead of the competition
insufficient uptake makes that irrelevant
forks were designed to wither.
here is csw's view before the segsplit:
'not just now, but in any instance'
the time component matters; the hashwar fucked that.
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Timeline: Craig Wright’s Story So Far - The Chain Bulletin
The story of the Australian has been revolving mostly around the controversy of multiple "proofs" of him being the inventor of Bitcoin, his role in the Bitcoin Cash split, a multi-billion dollar lawsuit, and patent trolling.
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here is a timeline of events, it's biased, but then again so are most bsv bagholders. the legal thing looks like a hot mess, oof.
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fan principle setup - 3.5x - 4x breakout for BITFINEX:BSVUSD by lindsaytradingview — TradingView
historically has when it has broken out has produced a 3.5 - 4x however this time has had a long period of accumulation and there are 2 court cases coming up where i believe will be positive on the price action for BSV so maybe we are looking at a larger rally this time
www.tradingview.com
chart from a court bull ^
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chart ive been revising since october
may break out upwards before my latest prediction
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if im right, BCH looks like a better short to mid term gamble
BCH Next - $850, $1.1k, $1.4k Mid - $1.8k-$2.4k Long - $4k? for COINBASE:BCHUSD by CryptoAIML — TradingView
BCH Next - $850, $1.1k, $1.4k Mid - $1.8k-$2.4k Long - $4k? Refer to previous Targets - https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BCHUSD/O0KksrB8-BCHUSD-NeXT-500-700/
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@cbeast it seems you are not heeding the spirit of bitsko's criticisms. it is not akin to boilerplate argument-free anti-BSV hogwash by small-time investors that confusedly hope such noise increases their chances of becoming rich at the crypto casino.
the common point of departure is the belief that BSV is technically superior and approaches the expected functionality of bitcoin. additionally, there has been a willingness to suspend judgment on personalities and focus on fundamentals.
at the time of the BCH/BSV split, BSV took an exciting direction, focusing on scalability, compliance and protocol stability, leading to enterprise adoption. meanwhile BCH's governance was a shambles, with an economically inept leader-dictator who eventually quit for money imposing half- baked protocol changes, and a lack of interest in the thought that massive adoption requires both stability and insertion in -- not circumvention of -- the existing legal and business framework.
yet a few years down the road the main BSV strategy has become to pursue legal cases which will not be resolved for years and whose result is quite improbably the one theorized. businesses are not onboarding. a boom cycle is going by that has lifted the entire space except for BSV. exchanges aren't listing it, the BTC narrative has become entrenched and self-fulfilling, technical difficulties remain, end usage is not picking up (effective throughput has halved since last year), and the maximalist claim that BTC would be sold to fund BSV development has been unceremoniously taken back.
so perhaps it is time to modulate the optimism? this is the attitude already taken by several BSV builders (relayx, handcash, twetch): not to count on the BA / CSW / CA strategy, indeed criticize it and continue to work despite it. these businesses cannot wait forever, revenue needs to be generated, it is not sufficient to build on the self-annointed best tech, nor is anyone expecting to convert grand cross-jurisdictional legal theories by discredited defendants into marketplace victories.
the reality is that a sustained wave of interest in crypto that could have finally led to an uptick of usage of the capable tech completely bypassed the project. the time for rosy predictions is over.
the common point of departure is the belief that BSV is technically superior and approaches the expected functionality of bitcoin. additionally, there has been a willingness to suspend judgment on personalities and focus on fundamentals.
at the time of the BCH/BSV split, BSV took an exciting direction, focusing on scalability, compliance and protocol stability, leading to enterprise adoption. meanwhile BCH's governance was a shambles, with an economically inept leader-dictator who eventually quit for money imposing half- baked protocol changes, and a lack of interest in the thought that massive adoption requires both stability and insertion in -- not circumvention of -- the existing legal and business framework.
yet a few years down the road the main BSV strategy has become to pursue legal cases which will not be resolved for years and whose result is quite improbably the one theorized. businesses are not onboarding. a boom cycle is going by that has lifted the entire space except for BSV. exchanges aren't listing it, the BTC narrative has become entrenched and self-fulfilling, technical difficulties remain, end usage is not picking up (effective throughput has halved since last year), and the maximalist claim that BTC would be sold to fund BSV development has been unceremoniously taken back.
so perhaps it is time to modulate the optimism? this is the attitude already taken by several BSV builders (relayx, handcash, twetch): not to count on the BA / CSW / CA strategy, indeed criticize it and continue to work despite it. these businesses cannot wait forever, revenue needs to be generated, it is not sufficient to build on the self-annointed best tech, nor is anyone expecting to convert grand cross-jurisdictional legal theories by discredited defendants into marketplace victories.
the reality is that a sustained wave of interest in crypto that could have finally led to an uptick of usage of the capable tech completely bypassed the project. the time for rosy predictions is over.
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GoDaddy removes listing that showed Bitcoin.com for sale for $100 million
Roger Ver, the owner of Bitcoin.com, told The Block in an interview today that the domain name is not for sale.
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