Zarathustra
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It's Capitalism, stupid. The heavy hitters created BSV by investing millions. Now they profit by destroying it?
Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP.
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The notion that segwit can satisfy a court-ordered return of stolen coins isn't quite accurate. If any miner can simply claim coins, then the security model is lost. Every miner would have to agree and without an alert system, there is no way to notify miners of the fact even if they were willing. Of course, there would need to be a global authority to transmit such an order, but that's trivial compared with restoring the code necessary to accomplish the task.
As far as PR goes, BSV doesn't need it. Full stop. If PR was important, then Madison Avenue would have already chosen the global blockchain, but as it stands, BSV already won. The concept of metanet will be the only relevant issue in computing. In fact, the online experience will evolve beyond anything we understand today with ANN fed ML, nano-payment DAO standardization, and feeless stable-coins payments. The future's so bright, you gotta wear shades.
As far as PR goes, BSV doesn't need it. Full stop. If PR was important, then Madison Avenue would have already chosen the global blockchain, but as it stands, BSV already won. The concept of metanet will be the only relevant issue in computing. In fact, the online experience will evolve beyond anything we understand today with ANN fed ML, nano-payment DAO standardization, and feeless stable-coins payments. The future's so bright, you gotta wear shades.
bitsko
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its amazing how many times BSVer can declare they have won, while losing so fucking hard lol.
david and goliath, except david has a very large amount of stock in goliath, and his bosses told him hes not allowed to throw rocks, and david keeps making fucking blogposts about how he won already.
here is what will happen: craig wright will go to court for years and lose every battle except the one where he takes bsv.
bsv wont be able to get adopted meaningfully because being completely blackballed means just that.
david and goliath, except david has a very large amount of stock in goliath, and his bosses told him hes not allowed to throw rocks, and david keeps making fucking blogposts about how he won already.
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here is what will happen: craig wright will go to court for years and lose every battle except the one where he takes bsv.
bsv wont be able to get adopted meaningfully because being completely blackballed means just that.
This Duro stuff isn't some big change
We have only 2 definitions so far - 1 bitcoin and 1 satoshi.
Now we have 500 satoshis = 1 Duro. Let's see if it sticks.
Maybe someone will decide to define 100 satoshis to be 1 skrill or 2000 -> 1 gwop.
My world is unaffected by someone's decision that 500 satoshi should be called 1 Duro.
We have only 2 definitions so far - 1 bitcoin and 1 satoshi.
Now we have 500 satoshis = 1 Duro. Let's see if it sticks.
Maybe someone will decide to define 100 satoshis to be 1 skrill or 2000 -> 1 gwop.
My world is unaffected by someone's decision that 500 satoshi should be called 1 Duro.
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talking about bsv in public is a non starter because of three years of rolling icespergmouth.
talking about duro is a clean slate. I wish the endaevor the best
Bsv won by the way, because it never really hits a scale ceiling, except that isnt true any time soon, and the network gets fucked off well before 600MB of cat pictures, which isnt even a decent metric for throughput, as throughput pertains to financial transactions and not the impermanent opreturn hack.
'it never really hits a scale ceiling' -cryptofights dev spends six months trying to get around the ancestor limit
'it never really hits a scale ceiling' -moneybutton collapses for days because the plumbing isnt even the weakeast link
do me a favor and declare that bsv won only when it can fulfill these hollow and boastful promises
craig wright law narrative is so fucking off the mark that I wouldnt be suprised if BSV gets ruled as a centralized security.
the claim that bsv is the original bitcoin and that segwit is an airdrop fork is so embarrasingly flimsy I do not see how it can be anything other than a three year delayed ass-handing.
redo your taxes because BTC is an airdrop fork?
please, give me a fucking break already.
the argument that 'bsv protocol is set in stone' has no merit, major changes have been undertaken and are still required, they will and have been implemented in a centralized fashion, if the bar for being determined a security is three years, the bsv will be able to be determined a security three years after it adjusts the amaury DAA back to original bitcoin difficulty adjustment algorithn
talking about duro is a clean slate. I wish the endaevor the best
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Bsv won by the way, because it never really hits a scale ceiling, except that isnt true any time soon, and the network gets fucked off well before 600MB of cat pictures, which isnt even a decent metric for throughput, as throughput pertains to financial transactions and not the impermanent opreturn hack.
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'it never really hits a scale ceiling' -cryptofights dev spends six months trying to get around the ancestor limit
'it never really hits a scale ceiling' -moneybutton collapses for days because the plumbing isnt even the weakeast link
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do me a favor and declare that bsv won only when it can fulfill these hollow and boastful promises
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craig wright law narrative is so fucking off the mark that I wouldnt be suprised if BSV gets ruled as a centralized security.
the claim that bsv is the original bitcoin and that segwit is an airdrop fork is so embarrasingly flimsy I do not see how it can be anything other than a three year delayed ass-handing.
redo your taxes because BTC is an airdrop fork?
please, give me a fucking break already.
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the argument that 'bsv protocol is set in stone' has no merit, major changes have been undertaken and are still required, they will and have been implemented in a centralized fashion, if the bar for being determined a security is three years, the bsv will be able to be determined a security three years after it adjusts the amaury DAA back to original bitcoin difficulty adjustment algorithn
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@bitsko
Your arguments are pedantic. Saying that Bitcoin never really hits a scaling limit is speaking theoretically. Under proper conditions, it shouldn't. Of course there are real-world issues to contend with. CSW's law arguments are appropriate. Do you have a better idea? Let's see your proposal. Perhaps you own a Madison Avenue marketing firm and are willing to offer free infomercials?
Is the airdrop fork argument any stupider than a "soft-fork" that doesn't exist? From the code perspective, since he wrote it, BTC is plagiarism at best and definitely not backwards compatible with the original bitcoin, especially if you had nLockTime contracts and lost the original key.
I know you're just trolling. Not sure what your ulterior motive is. You haven't offered one new idea. What's your game?
Your arguments are pedantic. Saying that Bitcoin never really hits a scaling limit is speaking theoretically. Under proper conditions, it shouldn't. Of course there are real-world issues to contend with. CSW's law arguments are appropriate. Do you have a better idea? Let's see your proposal. Perhaps you own a Madison Avenue marketing firm and are willing to offer free infomercials?
Is the airdrop fork argument any stupider than a "soft-fork" that doesn't exist? From the code perspective, since he wrote it, BTC is plagiarism at best and definitely not backwards compatible with the original bitcoin, especially if you had nLockTime contracts and lost the original key.
I know you're just trolling. Not sure what your ulterior motive is. You haven't offered one new idea. What's your game?
LOL, no it's all of our money that's boot-strapped Bitcoin. Bitcoin is just a protocol with potential utility, we've boot-strapped bitcoin by speculating others will find it useful in the future.
Smart Bitcoin Cash is a sidechain for Bitcoin Cash and has an aim to explore new ideas and unlock novel possibilities.
I thought BCH believed in on-chain scaling, I didn't expect to hear about BCH sidechains... but /r/btc seems to be in euphoria..
I thought BCH believed in on-chain scaling, I didn't expect to hear about BCH sidechains... but /r/btc seems to be in euphoria..
We need to decentralize authority for freedom to strive, (the actual meaning of the word, not the perverted Core meaning) we are not free if each one of us 7,000,000,000 can not challenge someone who holds authority over us, we are just victims marred in bureaucracy while our authority just benefits from our inability to hold it accountable.
Zarathustra
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BitcoinSVDevelopers - The Bitcoin Development Gateway
BitcoinSVDevelopers is a Developer page, managed and updated by members of the Bitcoin SV Community.
www.bitcoinsvdevelopers.com
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"Once the final restrictions on the protocol are removed in the Chronicle Update (expected early-mid 2021) network users will be able to create partitioned zones which employ specific rulesets particular to their requirements. This will be enabled by creating transactions that use OP_VER to give particular subsets of nodes specialised instructions, and will create the effect of layered network partitions over the core system which are referred to as Bitcoin Layered Networks."
- https://wiki.bitcoinsv.io/index.php/Main_Page
sensiblecontract.org
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Sensible Contract
📌 Sensible Contract is the only known solution that supports contract backward-tracing and collaboration without maintaining an off-chain state, which differs from all ‘oracle’ solutions around the BSV world. (the signature service is stateless) The state-of-the-art of sophisticated...
sensiblecontract.org
Herein lies our future, will Bitcoin be used for tyranny, or will it be a tool for cooperation and freedom.
So you're an anarchist? Authority is essential for civilization. It might as well be a civil authority chosen by its representatives. With the global nature of bitcoin, there needs to be a trusted system in place to handle crises.
How do you know anything? Evidence. It's plethora. You have no evidence he has handlers. You seem more like a cultist than I. Bring it on.
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You overestimate the power of tyrants. They tend to be quite stupid.
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The metanet development by the Chinese is exciting. They seem to be the only ones that grok bitcoin as a "bit coin"."Once the final restrictions on the protocol are removed in the Chronicle Update (expected early-mid 2021) network users will be able to create partitioned zones which employ specific rulesets particular to their requirements. This will be enabled by creating transactions that use OP_VER to give particular subsets of nodes specialised instructions, and will create the effect of layered network partitions over the core system which are referred to as Bitcoin Layered Networks."
- https://wiki.bitcoinsv.io/index.php/Main_Page
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Sensible Contract
📌 Sensible Contract is the only known solution that supports contract backward-tracing and collaboration without maintaining an off-chain state, which differs from all ‘oracle’ solutions around the BSV world. (the signature service is stateless) The state-of-the-art of sophisticated...
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i dunno cbeast, you questioned my motives without addressing any of my arguments.
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