Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP.

AdrianX · Mar 11, 2021

Zarathustra said:
No, you should be able to decide for yourself whether you want to market your idea/song/book yourself, or whether you leave it to Amazon and Google for free.
You will not invest a billion dollars in vaccine development if the result of that investment is allowed to be copied.

Correct... and the world would be a safer, more equitable and better place when people stopped depending on Imaginary Property (delusions) enforced by the state.

If you want to solve a need one has to do the work, pretending only one is allowed a monopoly and to profit from the division of labour is a delusion. Creating laws to enforce that delusion is making humanity sick.

We progress when others learn how to help more effectively. Copying is by definition progress, (not stealing) the things we are allowed to copy blossom into infinite creativity.

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Zarathustra said:
Should communists be allowed to copy this art work for free?

Anyone can copy it free, but the thing you can't copy is the time stamp and costly signal that says "I paid to the right to the history of digital signatures of the first instance on the blcokchain". That's worth whatever you're willing to pay for it.

I suspect it's a result of people spending $0.30 USD for one ETH, which's now worth $1,820 USD today so in real terms all good fortune aside it's about $11,373 or about what you'd pay a commercial artist - less the hype.

AdrianX · Mar 12, 2021

Zarathustra said:
No, you should be able to decide for yourself whether you want to market your idea/song/book yourself,

@Zarathustra you're full of hypocrisy. Progress happens, the state enforcing imaginary realities is just one way to solve a problem that does not exist, and you applaud the state for doing so. You do realize that if you don't want to share your idea, song or a book, you don't have to share them. Keep them secret in your head. It's only forest people who don't have the technology to record ideas in books or songs, and the notion that they don't innovate or copy and share ideas because there is no state enforcing a monopoly on the first to present an idea is just silly.

It's not ideal living in that primitive state, inevitably someone or something needs to cull the herd or innovate when it grows too big, we innovated because it's humane. I have a little chuckle inside when you applaud the state for enforcing Imaginary Property so we can innovate and create monopolies for profit and leave the forest, so noble of you.

Realistically we innovate to fulfil needs, not because big pharma wants the government to give them a monopoly to extract rent. Bill while philanthropically patenting a coronavirus vaccine in 2019 before the pandemic and philanthropically building 7 factories to produce it all while giving away his money and adding billions to his net worth in a year. The fact that he may not have philanthropically invested in this whole charade for power and profit makes me feel optimistic that we can learn from mistakes.

Zarathustra · Mar 12, 2021

> Correct... and the world would be a safer, more equitable and better place when people stopped depending on Imaginary Property (delusions) enforced by the state.

There is no such thing as a non-enforced property. Property has been invented with the invention of patriarchy/society/collectivism/organized violence, represented by church and state.
There is no property within a stateless community in the rain forest.
Of course, it you don't listen to science (anthropology), and believe in the ahistoric religion of the aristocrats from Vienna or similar fairytales, you will never know what happend and what will happen.
An anarchist capitalism is per se an oxymoron.

> We progress when others learn how to help more effectively.

Fairytales. There is no 'progress' among stateless communities in the rain forest. Their output has the same quantity as 10'000 years ago.
We progress (= destroy flora and fauna) since we are forced to pay tribute, and because there is never enough money out there to pay this tribute, we have to go into debt and pay interest, which enforces exponential growth of the so called economy.

> Anyone can copy it free, but the thing you can't copy is the time stamp and costly signal that says "I paid to the right to the history of digital signatures of the first instance on the blcokchain". That's worth whatever you're willing to pay for it.

No. CSW is right. Read the thread above again. They are willing to pay millions because the property is backed by the courts.

> @Zarathustra you're full of hypocrisy. Progress happens, the state enforcing imaginary realities is just one way to solve a problem that does not exist, and you applaud the state for doing so. You do realize that if you don't want to share your idea, song or a book, you don't have to share them. Keep them secret in your head.

No, I don't applaud it. I just present history and facts. It would be great if communism also works beyond Dunbars numbers, and it would be great if anarchist capitalism would work. But it doesn't, because it can't.

> You do realize that if you don't want to share your idea, song or a book, you don't have to share them. Keep them secret in your head.

LOL yes. I realize that if I dont want my hard work to be stolen, I have to keep it secret in my head, and therefore won't be able to survive.

Zarathustra · Mar 12, 2021

> It's not ideal living in that primitive state,

It's better to live in the rain forest as a homo sapiens than to live as a taxed citizen (homo oeconomicus/hypercollectivist)., where only a minority is able to live a good life. You are the real statist. Not me.

> inevitably someone or something needs to cull the herd or innovate when it grows too big, we innovated because it's humane.

As I already tried to explain. You have it upside down. You confuse cause and effect, because you think economists (theologians) know more about human history than anthropologists. The transformation of the homo sapiens into a homo oeconomicus (tribute slave) determined the overpopulation.

cbeast · Mar 15, 2021

Zarathustra said:
You will not invest a billion dollars in vaccine development if the result of that investment is allowed to be copied.

That's why most of the research for pharma is done at taxpayer-funded Universities.

Zarathustra · Mar 16, 2021

Disgusting. This industry consists of two thirds of soulless technical idiots who don't even understand their own subject. The virus is then blamed for excess mortality instead of the idiocy of the technical idiots.

Our group recently conducted a global survey of frontline providers to explore barriers and enablers to small and sick newborn care during the pandemic. The findings suggested that evidence-based practices are being disrupted, with two-thirds of respondents reporting they do not allow mothers with confirmed or suspected COVID-19 to practice routine KMC and nearly one-quarter reporting they do not allow breastmilk feeding, even by uninfected caregivers [[38]]. Further, 20% reported changes in KMC practice among SARS-CoV-2-negative mothers and 7% reported complete disruption of KMC services. Respondents highlighted the importance of caregiver counselling on hygiene precautions, ensuring provision of adequate PPE, and promoting clear guidance regarding KMC and breastfeeding.
(..)
A sensitivity analysis conducted with different rates of transmission shows that the number of lives lost due to COVID-19 could be as low as 200 (lower bound: 100; upper bound: 420), with a 10% transmission rate (Table 2). Therefore, the benefit of providing KMC is 65 to 630 times higher than the risk of dying from COVID-19 among neonates born in facilities weighing ≤2000 g. These estimates do not reflect changes in the coverage or provision of any other interventions due to pandemic-related disruptions. Moreover, COVID-19 could result in an additional 17,500 (lower bound: 3900; upper bound: 31,100) maternal deaths, which would further disrupt neonatal care and KMC in this vulnerable population.

DEFINE_ME

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cbeast said:
That's why most of the research for pharma is done at taxpayer-funded Universities.

The taxpayer is also a voter. "We the people".

"Capitalism - A System That Works" Paul C. Martin

Zarathustra · Mar 17, 2021

Zarathustra · Mar 21, 2021

Buffett indicator at new all-time high

cbeast · Mar 21, 2021

Zarathustra said:
Buffett indicator at new all-time high

Mmmm... I'm hungry. I miss buffets.

Zarathustra · Mar 23, 2021

AdrianX · Mar 23, 2021

It’s called strategy,

Call it what you want, forcing people to keep their bitcoin on MtGox or CAvertex or in a bank that uses the Lightning Network and fractional reserve Bitcoin is not strategic, it's stupid.

It's like abusing the law, force people to use a broken system that is causing an extreme acceleration in wealth inequality driving social unrest today.

The fact TPTB can get away with it just illustrated how broken our legal system is. When they pass legislation by sneaking it in, disguising it with legalese, so no one can understand the changes just illustrates how corrupt governments have become.

The future does not look so bright when the people who we've entrusted to govern, abuse their power first with creating money, then by allowing that system to corrupt Bitcoin in the same way.

Zarathustra · Mar 23, 2021

AdrianX said:
The future does not look so bright when the people who we've entrusted to govern, abuse their power first with creating money, then by allowing that system to corrupt Bitcoin in the same way.

And even a majority of the bitcoin people allowed the Maxwell gang to corrupt Bitcoin.

Bloomie · Mar 24, 2021

TSLA up, Bitcoin up.

Zarathustra · Mar 24, 2021

Fortunately here in Switzerland you can by Ferraris with those Ponzi Coins. Ferrari is store of value. Tesla and BTC is not.

Erobert Bitcoin die Schweizer Autobranche?

Tesla machts – und auch die Schweizer Kessel-Gruppe mit Garagen in Zug und Lugano. Sie setzen auf die Kryptowährung Bitcoin. Zahlen wir unsere Autos schon bald mit der neuen Digitalwährung?

www.blick.ch

trinoxol · Mar 25, 2021

Hello everyone,

I thought the following was pretty funny: The Chain business plan has been leaked and it's a shocker.

Leak Reveals nChain Businesses Plan

LONDON – A low-level hack of cyber security expert and technology company nChain resulted in a leak of highly sensitive information yesterday. Prominent among leaked items was nChain’s …

thesoontimes.com

bitsko · Mar 31, 2021

Segwit only allows for the potential to break the chain of signatures, whereas suing bsv association to reassign coins will absolutely break the chain of signatures, and before segwit does.

Craig Wright should take Satoshi Nakamoto's advice and think of those lost coins as a donation to everyone.(instead of suing to personally gain at the expense of BSV, yet again)

“Lost coins only make everyone else's coins worth slightly more. Think of it as a donation to everyone.” -Satoshi Nakamoto

Some people like to recreate the narrative surrounding when satoshi spoke of 'gold turning to lead'. That was obviously in the context of contracting, and not in the context of going to court to sue an entity you created the year before to take BSV, breaking the chain of digital signatures in the process.