Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP.

Zarathustra

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You're a bum, you're a punk
You're an old slut on junk
Lying there almost dead on a drip in that bed
You scumbag, you maggot
You cheap lousy faggot
Happy Christmas, your arse
I pray God it's our last

 
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KoKansei

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Why is it that all the rabid CSW-haters in that thread are acting like Wright somehow broke a sacred promise to them? I've noticed a consistent pattern with this crowd where some kind of very specific entitlement is assumed on the part of the observer. It's always about how failure to perform some very specific act is somehow damning of not only the man himself but also his project. It really is a strange mentality if you ask me.
 

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Why is it that all the rabid CSW-haters in that thread are acting like Wright somehow broke a sacred promise to them? I've noticed a consistent pattern with this crowd where some kind of very specific entitlement is assumed on the part of the observer. It's always about how failure to perform some very specific act is somehow damning of not only the man himself but also his project. It really is a strange mentality if you ask me.
Could it be that decent people hate liars, especially serial ones, and those who consistently defend them against their better knowledge.

It's a survival advantage, discerning truth from falsehood.

Those who can't do it segregate themselves from those who can, by their own actions.

Those who can, but still deceive others with sophistry, hell hath a special fury for them...
 

KoKansei

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>liar

Yes, it's easy to see how primitive ostracization instincts are a much better guide to figuring out the truth, I mean just look at all those liars and heretics duly ostracized throughout history: Galileo, Pythagoras, Copernicus...

But hey if it "contributes to survival" who am I to question how you feel.
 

cypherdoc

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Could it be that decent people hate liars, especially serial ones, and those who consistently defend them against their better knowledge.

It's a survival advantage, discerning truth from falsehood.

Those who can't do it segregate themselves from those who can, by their own actions.

Those who can, but still deceive others with sophistry, hell hath a special fury for them...
still focusing on the man, not the message. Wtf is wrong with you?
 

cypherdoc

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every single Bitcoin variant developer/founder of any significance has revealed their true identity with time given the profit/fame incentive to continue devving. even u/singularity of the BCH fork and even @Satoshi (if you believe he's CSW). all except one. we're lucky enough to have him right here in this very thread everyday all day despite his constant protestations of "shit thread" and never ending promises to leave. why is that? no ABC dev needed despite Amaury's constant pleas for help?
 
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nullc (@Zectro / contrarian) (and) @freetrader left 'developing' because 'they' have no other interests than Craig Wright. What's the explanation to such sick behavior?
1. They consider their coding not worth a shit.
2. They consider the blockchain they work for as shit.
3. They consider other coder being better while finding their strength in social media influencing
4. They just hate Craig so much that they make it their live mission
5. They are afraid of what Craig says so they try to deflect attention aways from it

Don't know, maybe there are more explanations. History books will forget about them, while they will remember Craig, this or that way, and they will tell the story that bsv is nothing but a product of Craig's narcism, while they don't realize that all what their own narcism is able to bear is sockpuppeting against Craig...
 

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Thinking about buying some BSV (as a hedge). Exchange and Wallet thoughts? Changelly anyone? Maybe Handcash for a wallet.
HandCash is a privacy nightmare, all ID's and wallet addresses and transactions are connected via their server, (your phone number, full transaction history ready for KYC with the ability to potentially freeze your funds as they seem to have proprietary backups, in addition, their wallet depends on their serves to broadcast your transactions), I've been told this is a feature, not a bug.

While their ToC may protect you, it does not protect you from whoever gets access to the data, it's a privacy boondoggle that could be a bigger privacy concern than facebook or google at scale. The founder has said he'll sell out if the offer is good, that didn't give me any confidence when it comes to financial privacy data ending up in the wrong hands.

My preferred wallet is Electrum, conomi has a mobile app but it cant send to payment addresses, Edge works too although I don't use it much.

In my opinion, the only way to acquire BSV that makes it go up in value is to develop something that encourages people to send it to you.
 
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torusJKL

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HandCash is a privacy nightmare, all ID's and wallet addresses and transactions are connected via their server, (your phone number, full transaction history ready for KYC with the ability to potentially freeze your funds as they seem to have proprietary backups, in addition, their wallet depends on their serves to broadcast your transactions), I've been told this is a feature, not a bug.

While their ToC may protect you, it does not protect you from whoever gets access to the data, it's a privacy boondoggle that could be a bigger privacy concern than facebook or google at scale. The founder has said he'll sell out if the offer is good, that didn't give me any confidence when it comes to financial privacy data ending up in the wrong hands.

My preferred wallet is Electrum, conomi has a mobile app but it cant send to payment addresses, Edge works too although I don't use it much.

In my opinion, the only way to acquire BSV that makes it go up in value is to develop something that encourages people to send it to you.
The fund freezing is indeed something that worries me.
They can't steel you funds because they don't have the full seed but the user doesn't have it either and hence could not recover the funds with a different wallet in case of a freeze.
 

cypherdoc

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HandCash is a privacy nightmare, all ID's and wallet addresses and transactions are connected via their server, (your phone number, full transaction history ready for KYC with the ability to potentially freeze your funds as they seem to have proprietary backups, in addition, their wallet depends on their serves to broadcast your transactions), I've been told this is a feature, not a bug.
tbf, the original SPV wallet (Mycelium) could do this too, minus the phone number and split key. i just looked over the Handcash site having never used it, and i can see why they think using one's cell number as a 2nd factor and splitting the key in the name of decentralization might be desirable for security reasons. but yeah, potentially freezing your access is not/never a good thing.
While their ToC may protect you, it does not protect you from whoever gets access to the data, it's a privacy boondoggle that could be a bigger privacy concern than facebook or google at scale.
also, i'm not happy with the wallet space ever since it was shown that Trezor is susceptible to the STM32 glitch. hardware wallets were sold from the beginning under the assumption that the seed could never be extracted making it possible to carry either large or small balances around in your pocket. now, it's been reduced merely to pwd (25th word) security for small balances for most situations. it's almost like the original full node wallets and/or Armory (not great) are the best for security these days.
My preferred wallet is Electrum
i like it too but ever since malicious and gvt monitoring nodes have been introduced, connecting your wallet blindly to their server network seems unsafe. one thing i've done recently is setup the Electrum Personal Server by Chris Belcher (my arch enemy) and it works great and was easy to configure with all the components local. it works in pruned mode (after IBD) too which is a big advantage. once it imports your balance addresses into bitcoin-qt, that's all you need open for watch only status. this feels much safer. i'm looking to experiment/setup ElectrumX for BCH/BSV (appears significantly harder to setup) but not sure if it can run on the same OS (maybe different -datadir?). probably not, so a VM will have to do. but see the problem here? if you have a hardware wallet, now you're dealing with 4 things to integrate: hardware, electrum server, full node, electrum software variant. if BSV can get direct hardware wallet integration with it's full node software in prune mode, that'd be a huge win:

https://stephanlivera.com/episode/99/
 
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