Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP.

[bitsko]

mmm avacados

 

[Joel Dalais]

i havent posted here in a while, but i have been watching

needless to say, some people have been terrible disapointments, others, not so much

but the "game" is approaching a different "chapter" now, people will have to Choose to be left behind or walk the "road" that is Bitcoin/MetaNet

and if you don't understand what i'm talking about, then you are not ready to walk the "road" wish us yet

be seeing you

 

[Norway]

i havent posted here in a while, but i have been watching

needless to say, some people have been terrible disapointments, others, not so much

but the "game" is approaching a different "chapter" now, people will have to Choose to be left behind or walk the "road" that is Bitcoin/MetaNet

and if you don't understand what i'm talking about, then you are not ready to walk the "road" wish us yet

be seeing you

@Joel Dalais
This is a thread about arguments and debate, not tribalism.

 

[Joel Dalais]

@Joel Dalais
This is a thread about arguments and debate, not tribalism.

Nice to know

I'm going to take your vain attempt at a dig as that you don't have the faintest idea what i'm talking about, clearly self-placing yourself in the disapointment camp.

And that you don't actually realize its my own conclusion to your "arguments and debates", though by all means feel free to continue your "scaling" arguments and debates, me and others will just be building/creating/teaching over there.

Sad you think actually following bitcoin protocol and design is "tribalism", lol

bye

 

[79b79aa8]

@Joel Dalais

I'm sure @Norway knows what you are talking about. I take it he's simply asking -- not just of you -- that we keep our focus on arguments, not on determining camps.

Anyhow, welcome back to the thread. I would be thankful if you pointed to some recent reading material that may have escaped attention.

 

[Joel Dalais]

since you replied nicely not really "reading material", but maybe something to stimulate argument/debate.

https://bico.media/ffe8178a1cb6de8afb299255d2b0b59839f0eea54c6efada399ec689fda97c34

this is a basic example of a website onchain, things of note:

• the hosting/website savings - far lower initial fees (cost around half a penny, i think less), and zero renewal fees.
  
  
• much easier to host a website
  
  
• the security, can't be hacked (try hacking the tx, lol)
  
  
• inclusivity with integrating MB/money (doesn't have to be MB, but i do strongly recommend as you can spit out a receipt, or do some BitCeption, mwahahahha)
  
  
• you can sell music, pics, items, whatever you want
  
  
• create your website/tx's properly, and you can easily create a website
  
  
• the top 2 imgs are stored onchain via BASCIIAT (see unwriter)
  
  
• all imgs, sound recordings, movies, etc, will be onchain
  
  
• very early days, expect more "search engines" and similar that will help others to find what you build

This is a basic example, internet 1993 type of thing, but now we've got things back on track..

This is a case example of the "MetaNet", how a business/website can exist not "Online" but "Onchain".

This will hopefully help explain when I (or others) say things like; "Bitcoin as "money" is the first application, prepare for what comes next."

Like legoblocks you could say, you're supposed to build "upwards". The tx/money can be moved around, the website remains.

So by "walking on the same road", i did not mean some kind of 'tribalism' thing, i meant building "upwards", on the same path that myself and others are.

Or not.. it is coming to the point where more people will have to make a Choice or be left behind.

 

[Norway]

I'm going to take your vain attempt at a dig as that you don't have the faintest idea what i'm talking about, clearly self-placing yourself in the disapointment camp.

I'm not trying to please you.

 

[cbeast]

Emin Gün Sirer is a liar, a fraud, or an idiot, or a piece of shit, or all of that combined.
Claims that it was the 'BSV community' that started by storing child pornography on the chain.

Firstly, block explorers can filter transactions. It won't be held against them if it's for moral reasons. The thing about morality is that you know it if you see it and if you don't see it then you need society to help you with that. Secondly, there is a digital trail. There is no such thing as anonymity in the surveillance age. Thirdly, who cares where we spend our money except folks trying to take it away from us?

 

[cypherdoc]

at this point, if they all go up together even at one third their individual rates of a maximalist scenario, I'm happy.

 

[Golarz Filip]

I just hope this thread will not became another BSV echo chamber.

 

[bitsko]

Another? What were some of the other ones?

How many will declare the ideas 'uninteresting' this time around (just as a blocksize increase was deemed by some voluntaryist developers) ?

 

[Zarathustra]

I just hope this thread will not became another BSV echo chamber.

If the non-BSV representants wouldn't disappear, it couldn't become a BSV echo chamber. But it seems that they are capitulating. Where is BU's chief scientist? Where are the devs?

 

[79b79aa8]

the attitude seems to be not to talk to fools. that way error lies.

 

[bitsko]

interesting perspective.

and here i was thinking that most people other than chris pacia cant stomach making the same arguments they defended against over the last few years.

 

[cypherdoc]

well c'mon. rolling 10 block check points displaces the innovative PoW as a concensus security mechanism. avalanche even more so. I've also noticed a few revived arguments condemning the replay protection BCH enacted Aug 17. it's a good point. I was always against replay protection. these things build up. as a maximalist, I want to see a highly dominant, if not exclusive, chain as money. dilution is a concept I've warned against forever here.

 

[79b79aa8]

yep. rather being in alignment with "BSV-representants", i just can't see a way out of the woods for BCH. it is in the hands of engineers who think purported code improvements are more important for a currency than economic stability.

 

[SPAZTEEQ]

But does BSV have replay protection from BTC?

 

[lunar]

If you ignore the massive, massive financial losses these multicoiner doofuses have inflicted upon everyone, it's actually quite funny.

Where are they now?

Roger Shilling 70% Premine ETH tokens
https://thenextweb.com/hardfork/2019/02/25/roger-ver-ico-shilling/

Jihan 'resigned' after nearly bankrupting Bitmain.

One thing for sure, the 'BCH is the real bitcoin' meme has been silenced, after the Nov fork, that blatant hypocrisy was just too much. Checkpoint anyone? Or should I be shouting Avalanche !!! ?

 

[79b79aa8]

indeed. but that does not mean that BTC-SegWit 'is the real bitcoin', either.

 

[cypherdoc]

But does BSV have replay protection from BTC?

no. yes, they inherited it from BCH. you could argue they could've forked from BTC but nchain and Calvin pools were already mining BCH with momentum heading in the big block direction. the supposed attack would've been easier too. I wish they would've gone through with that.