Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP.

[Inca]

If @theZerg is coming and bringing bitcoin sharding then I for one welcome him to planet earth!

 

[Norway]

Does anybody know wich talks from BU are accepted at the Milan conference?

 

[lunar]

Comments on JR's Core roadmap interview.? It's quite painful to listen to such a stream of FUD and nirvana fallacies. Plus he really shows his lack of economic understanding especially toward the end of the show. Yet it does pretty much sum up the Core blinkered mono mindset. Anyone game for a point by point rebuttal interview?


important Ministry of truth update. A Chain fork is now an altcoin... in case you didn't know.

 

[albin]

That LTB podcast was a cringe-fest for me. I especially liked Stephanie Murphy's hard-hitting interview style, where in literally two cases her follow-up question was "I like how you said ______".

My biggest objection is that Ratcliffe's self-proclaimed objective as a spokesman for Core is fundamentally disingenuous, because he frames the issue completely inaccurately. If this thing really were about everybody wanting to scale but disagreeing about technical approaches and limitations, then it would've been extremely easy to come to some kind of compromise consensus.

This is really about repurposing the blocksize as an economic parameter, and compromise will never be possible with those people, yet I noticed none of this narrative whatsoever in his comments, other than the paranoid post-conference observation he made that the boogie man looking to spam the main chain is always around the corner waiting for tx fees to fall!

Edit:

Upon thinking about it some more, here are two major issues that I just don't get the impression that he comprehends at all in his vision of how the infrastructure would fill out:

 

[cliff]

Great conference,
Not a bad presentation,
Lots of enthusiasm,
Lots of smart, EXTREMELY qualified BTC folks in the Westin-St Francis today.

Anybody on the fence about the BU dev team (including those not on the team per se, but working on other stuff that will need to be compatible with BU) should feel very confident in their capabilities - I know I do (but I wasn't on the fence, so maybe I'm biased). Don't be afraid to kick the tires and try out BU.

@Norway - RE: papers for Milan - If I understand correctly, its not many. Equivalent to the number of fingers on a horse.

 

[Norway]

@cliff
Thanks, do you have more details? As far as I know, the potential speakers are @Peter R , @sickpig and @theZerg .

Do you mean none of them are speaking?

 

[sickpig]

Does anybody know wich talks from BU are accepted at the Milan conference?

@Norway

the Program Chair of Scaling Bitcoin, i.e Matt Corallo, sent 3 separate emails to inform us that they "were not able to accept" our proposals.

In my case they said that my proposal was not up to par. Dunno about @theZerg's and @Peter R's, but I think that they gave more or less the same template answer to both.

 

[pekatete]

The same Matt Corallo, architect of the centralised RN, is chair of Scaling Bitcoin? Tough chance anyone not on song with blockstream / core would have their talk accepted, let alone considered.

 

[Justus Ranvier]

Tough chance anyone not on song with blockstream / core would have their talk accepted, let alone considered.

This is true. Their call for proposals was never made in good faith.

They were, however, willing to allow BU to sponsor the conference and accepted their payment right before censoring all their presentations.

 

[freetrader]

It would be interesting to know the subjects of the talks that were refused for Milan.

Handling of proposed talks for conferences is clearly an area that can be improved upon easily with a more transparent process by a better team (than Scaling Bitcoin's committee).

 

[Peter R]

@Norway:

In addition to sponsoring the conference, the Bitcoin Unlimited team submitted three proposals for talks:

1. Xthin: A Bloom Filter Based Technique to Improve Block Propagation Across the P2P Network
2. Subchains Facilitate On-chain Scaling and Fast Transaction Verification
3. Scaling Bitcoin by Sharding the Blockchain

All three proposals were rejected.

(Proposals were limited to 1-2 pages)

 

[Norway]

@Peter R
Are @Christoph Bergmann and I the only two BU-people attending Milan?

 

[lunar]

Time and time again they have shown bad faith. I imagine any BU proposals trying to present at the Milan stalling conference would be greeted something like this:


....... is there someone else up there we can talk to?

 

[AdrianX]

Great conference,
Not a bad presentation,
Lots of enthusiasm,
Lots of smart, EXTREMELY qualified folks in the BTC Westin-St Francis today.

Anybody on the fence about the BU dev team (including those not on the team per se, but working on other stuff that will need to be compatible with BU) should feel very confident in their capabilities - I know I do (but I wasn't on the fence, so maybe I'm biased). Don't be afraid to kick the tires and try out BU.

@Norway - RE: papers for Milan - If I understand correctly, its not many. Equivalent to the number of fingers on a horse.

Sorry I missed it I would have loved to meet actual "bitcoiners" as far as i know most are virtual.

Sounds like a success.

 

[Peter R]

@Peter R
Are @Christoph Bergmann and I the only two BU-people attending Milan?

I think @sickpig is going, and @theZerg and I might still attend too. I think @dgenr8 is also going.

 

[Inca]

Not surprised to see the BU abstracts rejected. As if we needed a reminder they do not play by the rules.

 

[Norway]

I think @sickpig is going, and @theZerg and I might still attend too. I think @dgenr8 is also going.

I invited all of the above to a conversation on this forum to organize practical stuff before and during the Milan conference.

 

[xhiggy]

This is really about repurposing the blocksize as an economic parameter, and compromise will never be possible with those people.

This is a great way of stating, simply, why a hardfork away from core is important at this point in time.

 

[Zarathustra]

The same Matt Corallo, architect of the centralised RN, is chair of Scaling Bitcoin? Tough chance anyone not on song with blockstream / core would have their talk accepted, let alone considered.

 

[Zarathustra]

I think @sickpig is going, and @theZerg and I might still attend too. I think @dgenr8 is also going.

Censored proposals are getting an attention booster. You should present them anyway, as
The Censored Scaling Proposals of Bitcoin Unlimited, sponsored by Bitcoin.com