Thank you @Zangelbert Bingledack, that's a remarkable post which goes some way to helping understand what is going on! I still need to re-read it a few times.
Maybe I lost patience with @jonny1000 a little too soon, but it was very hard to understand why he did not address himself to significant considerations elaborated on our side and just kept reiterating the same points of his own as if they explained everything. The most generous explanation seemed to be perversity on his part, seemingly impervious to logic and with little appreciation of the dynamic nature of the system.
I think what worries me most now is how difficult it will be ever to bridge this gulf. It seems far worse than the political divisions we see in national politics.
It is as if we are two alien cultures with no common language, looking past each other unseeing and virtually deaf, relying on cultivating the same field for food.
I guess both groups could rub along together with a mature coin already successful and unchallenged, but that is not the position. Rather it is going to be the harsh process of market selection which decides between two strongly dissenting parties. It could be bloody.
@jonny1000 may find this hard to believe, but I do appreciate his perseverence in these discussions, though clearly there was no meeting of minds.
