Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP.

[AdrianX]

I can't actually see what CSW thinks, I can see Bitcoin as a global money system, BSV is the only version that can scale to that vision. I remain invested in all versions of bitcoin and am developing for all eventualities.

 

[BldSwtTrs]

I think BSV is the only blockchain that actually scale. This bull run will make some market participants understand that neither BTC nor ETH scale.

But BSV needs to sort out its communication. Toxic BTC maximalism is a thing, as is toxic BSV maximalism.

I think CSW needs to stop to treat to sue every body in the crypto community and scare away projects, and thus prevent the creation of any network effect, with a constant emphasis on law and regulation. The BSV community think corporations will adopt BSV because of its regulatory compliance, but the reality is that CSW image is currently so bad that not a single corporation will touch this protocol due to the reputation risk caused by CSW bad image.

 

[xhiggy]

BSV definitely needs a new face. Anyone want to volunteer to get harassed and trolled forever? No? Well poop. It's going to be hard to shake the mass spam campaign that has happened against CSW, so his image will need to be revitalized, and the image of BTC taken down. Which honestly, should be easy to do, but for some reason people ignore the atrocities of BTC so easily.

 

[BldSwtTrs]

BSV definitely needs a new face. Anyone want to volunteer to get harassed and trolled forever? No? Well poop. It's going to be hard to shake the mass spam campaign that has happened against CSW, so his image will need to be revitalized, and the image of BTC taken down. Which honestly, should be easy to do, but for some reason people ignore the atrocities of BTC so easily.

Well, BSV is trolled because of CSW. BSV is actually fairly easy to defend, whereas CSW is more difficult to defend.

I am not finding it hard at all to defend and explain the core qualities of BSV, people are rather receptive when this is well formulated. But people who know the history of the industry will invariably criticize CSW, and CSW is harder to defend. I think he is Satoshi but, given his communication, it's a losing battle to try to explain this to someone.

I don't think the image of BTC needs to be taken down. I file that belief under the "toxic BSV maximalism" category.
BSV is not even competing with BTC. And even if the two were competitors, I don't think any energy should be put into criticizing BTC. BSV just need to focus on its mission and everything will fall into place (including the demise of BTC, if it should be that way at the end of the process). The mission should be the focus, not the competitors (and CSW is spending way too much of his energy on trying to talk down the competitors).

 

[xhiggy]

I think the 'toxic BSV maximalism', which is certainly real, comes from the fact that it's a fork, and shares a hash algorithm with BTC.

 

[AdrianX]

@BldSwtTrs your post is spot on from my vantage point.

with a constant emphasis on law and regulation.

When CSW talks about "law and regulation" what I suspect from my own experience is he's just saying if this can happen to me it's defiantly going to happen to you, and your going to be fucked if you've actually been doing XYZ. When I criticize his "law and regulation" position it's because it's having the opposite effect, it's discouraging investment not inviting it. Nobody willingly invites regulation, but we all tolerate it because that's the cost of business.

Once the incumbents can use regulation as a barrier to entry, preventing more efficient competition, as we see in mature markets teh corruption starts a new. Crypto is not there yet, regulation is being used to prevent adoption not encourage it.

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Well, BSV is trolled because of CSW. BSV is actually fairly easy to defend, whereas CSW is more difficult to defend.

Totally agree, but BSV and "CSW is Satoshi" maximalism makes it hard to focus on what's important as there is so much ammunition to distract from the things that matter.

 

[xhiggy]

Well, BSV is trolled because of CSW. BSV is actually fairly easy to defend, whereas CSW is more difficult to defend.

The harassment of Big Blockers started well before CSW was on the scene.

The harassment of CSW, imo, is about justifying treating him poorly when he uses his BTC. Or maybe even preventing him from doing so altogether.

 

[bitsko]

I think its a lot more likely (read: not so likely short term) that the companies engaged in blackballing BSV wane in significance over time than that they stop blackballing.

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I dont think it would be fruitful to try and change the perception of activists who hold their views because of alterior motives. I do think people with those views are the entrenched miniority leadership in the space.

 

[cypherdoc]

two recent events that will continue to drive Bitcoin adoption:

Opinion | The Cyber Threat Is Real and Growing

The U.S. must respond proportionally to the SolarWinds breach—and prepare for the next attack.

www.wsj.com

Some Cryptocurrency Trader Disclosure Required in Proposed Rules

The Treasury Department is seeking to hold users to the same standards that traditional financial institutions follow.

www.wsj.com

 

[cypherdoc]

Asymptomatic Spread Revisited

"We keep hearing about how we should follow the science. The claim is tired by now. We know what’s really happening. The lockdown lobby ignores whatever contradicts their narrative, preferring unverified anecdotes over an actual scientific study of 10 million residents in what was the world’s...

www.aier.org

 

[lunar]

Hi Everyone.

Still lurking here from time to time, glad to see the discussion continues on, lively and truth seeking.

Even battle hardened from years of Orwellian Core speak, this year has been tough. The depth, scale and efficiency with which sponsored 'science' and the majority of the worlds media have collaborated to scare the population into relinquishing their freedom, for the beginnings of a totalitarian NWO has been truly frightening.

Picard sums it up for me.




Yet in all this darkness, the fires of change have been lit. I've been waiting for a project like this on Bitcoin for nearly a decade.

BSV has its first country.

Here's to a happy new year.

Tuvalu Embarks on World's First National Digital Ledger and Infrastructure Project on Bitcoin SV

The island nation joins forces with nChain, Elas Digital, and Faiā to embark on a digital transformation project that includes creating a national digital ledger and registry using blockchain technology

www.accesswire.com

Ideas | Why this tiny island’s future wealth could come from its .tv domain name

Two letters at the end of a web address could be Tuvalu’s economic future.

restofworld.org

 

[cypherdoc]

We're screwed, Bitcoin UP:

 

[AdrianX]

LOL, sitting next to the printer are 8 reams of 500 Sheets of unopened paper that's 4000 pages.
The goal is not to just read it before you vote on it, it is to discuss it, and to try to identify possible externalities and to understand how the bill will serve the outcomes one may want, before one votes.

If people don't see how this process is broken and being hacked I'm afraid things are going from bad to worse.

 

[cypherdoc]

The U.S. Government Is Targeting Cryptocurrency to Expand the Reach of Its Financial Surveillance

One of the most important aspects of cryptocurrencies from a civil liberties perspective is that they can provide privacy protections for their users. But EFF is concerned that the U.S. government has been increasingly taking steps to undermine the anonymity of cryptocurrency transactions and...

www.eff.org

 

[lunar]

First of many.

Bigger fish are getting eaten.

SEC.gov | SEC Charges Ripple and Two Executives with Conducting $1.3 Billion Unregistered Securities Offering

www.sec.gov

Washington D.C., Dec. 22, 2020 —

The Securities and Exchange Commission announced today that it has filed an action against Ripple Labs Inc. and two of its executives, who are also significant security holders, alleging that they raised over $1.3 billion through an unregistered, ongoing digital asset securities offering.

wEn ETH brO ?

 

[cypherdoc]

Lol, SEC complaints are the same one's I warned about back in 2013; "unregistered securities". Along with a centralized, identifiable, know where you live dev team. Oops. It took 7 years for the chickens to come home to roost.

Yep, ETH next. Brutal

 

[lunar]

Wow, this is some next level crypto fu.

Shorting cRipple, using the onchain, BSV powered, Bitcoin Trading Protocol TDXP https://tdxp.app/

 

[cypherdoc]

Looks like cooperating with gvt isn't such a good idea given we now have two examples, Ripple and Bitinstant, that got reamed after bending over backwards trying to do so.

 

[79b79aa8]

yes @lunar TDXP is next level. all trades registered on the blockchain, full control of custody.

comparably, the casino at dragonbsv.io lets you play a real blackjack game, demonstrably fair, on chain. this is miles ahead of passive guessing digits from a block hash, satoshi dice style. (WARNING - the $1 min. bet will break you. not interested in gambling, just in the evolution of the tech.)

i encourage BCH devs to take a look at those apps for benchmarking purposes.

 

[cypherdoc]

Events like these always stimulate long ago memories of previous nemeses I've argued with. Who remembers Ripple shill head "misterbigg"?