Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP.

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grinding higher:


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>I can work with that

oh come on. you should be used to this stuff. remember when i used to shove these types of charts up the nose of the likes of miscreanity and silverbox in the early days (2 freaking college educations ago) as gold ground down (collapsed) and BTC UP? :LOL:
 
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My (very biased) perspective on the fork made me explore bsv apps like moneybutton, handcash and Keyport.
You needed a fork to check those out? handcash and keyport didn't stick with me, but I was a huge fan of moneybutton. I was even seeking out sites that used it just to be able to use the slick slidy thing... so much fun.

I left moneybutton and yours.org when Ryan X. Charles went ballistic and started banning people and deleting their content on yours.org. After the misguided policy of accepting only transaction valid on both chains (I lost money due to that) it was just too much. This was a huge reason for me to "be against" BSV.

Now there's https://honest.cash and moneybutton replacements like badger button.
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@molecular

>I can work with that

oh come on. you should be used to this stuff. remember when i used to shove these types of charts up the nose of the likes of miscreanity and silverbox in the early days (2 freaking college educations ago) as gold ground down (collapsed) and BTC UP? :LOL:
I don't have a problem to be on the receiving end and I think I said as much ("I can work with that"). Why do you twist my words?

> grinding higher [usual pic of bsv/bch]

you know full well it's BCH sellof that's going on. BSV isn't "grinding higher".

By that logic I could just as well post this:


BCH DOWN, Dash UP

So really you're just happy about BCH being down, not BSV being UP?
 
You needed a fork to check those out? handcash and keyport didn't stick with me, but I was a huge fan of moneybutton. I was even seeking out sites that used it just to be able to use the slick slidy thing... so much fun.

I left moneybutton and yours.org when Ryan X. Charles went ballistic and started banning people and deleting their content on yours.org. After the misguided policy of accepting only transaction valid on both chains (I lost money due to that) it was just too much. This was a huge reason for me to "be against" BSV.

Now there's https://honest.cash and moneybutton replacements like badger button.
I just got a handcash-compatible smartphone two weeks ago, maybe this was another reason ... With MoneyButton, I was first very disappointed to see Ryan focusing on it instead of yours, which was a thing I liked very much, and I needed some time to understand what it adds to just posting an address. After finally testing it and reading the html docu, I became absolutely fascinated.

If you followed r/btc in the weeks before the fork, and all the shit that was thrown on Ryan for just being undecided and trying hard to keep the things together (you call it misguided, but it was a desperate attempt of doing the right thing), I can understand him overreacting. Also he did something very very rare in our space: He publicly apologized.

I have not deeply investigated honest and badger button, but I'm not confident you can simply copy Ryan's focus on creating highly usable apps.

Cashport (handcash + keyport): Reserve an amount in your wallet, login to any side by scanning a QR-code, automatically paying a service like movies, music, articles and so on. Imho this could be a revolution for the content industry. Imagine this done with netflix, or with music streaming for artists.
 
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I never understood why you need an account for MoneyButton.

The basic idea of MoneyButton is a must-have for the space imho (for too long already); but the additional barrier of registering is an absolute dealbreaker and I fail to see why they implemented it this way.
 

cypherdoc

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Why do you twist my words?
don't worry. I'm just playing with ya. hence the :LOL:
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He doesn't like the People's Front of Judea anymore.:cry:
this is what CSW has accomplished. he's shoved everyone into two groups ; the 95% and 5%. this is one way how you can tell he is right.
 

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tis a good thing @go1111111 didn't get anyone to take his bet
 
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Wow. Only a few percent points left for the flippening. This is incredible.
Well yes, if you sold 60% of your prefork coins at 0.1 BCH/BSV, then it's incredibly gut-wrenching. /me raises hand.

But hell, if BSV turns out to be *the* coin everyone gets behind (and no, a price flippening is not enough) then I'm probably going to suck it up and join. I want censorship-resistant sound money for everybody and I'll swallow quite a bunch of bitter pills to have that goal (as long as it doesn't involve a 1MB blocksize limit). I don't have to be rich, I just want a better world for everybody.

So yes: good job so far, BSV supporters! But you still have a long way to go and a bunch of problems like a commitment to freeze the protocol and some "leadership" / PR issues. It'll be interesting to see how this develops.
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altho what you claim is quickly eroding
true.


hmmmm, a double top? doesn't look too good, let's see if you can overcome that:
 

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@majamalu "government friendly"

I think you missed the point, from several of my recent posts. 1 , 2 Some as far back as july18

If, as i'm beginning to suspect, the original Bitcoin was designed in such a way as to eloquently thread itself through the worlds securities laws, as cash. (being money first, means it's likely exempt). Then Calvins tweet makes perfect sense. Bitcoin is legal (citation needed), thus neutral in the eyes of the government, law and should be marketed as friendly, compared to the swath of frankly disgusting ICO and PoS ponzi coins out there.

Bitcoin doesn't get to be global cash by saying FU to big government. It gets there by remaining neutral, to offshore casinos and government agencies alike.

'The green reed which bends in the wind is stronger than the mighty oak which breaks in a storm.'


The sleight of hand here is that if it is adopted by governments, it will transform the corrupt ones like a trojan. It's an open immutable ledger that never forgets. Governments will be forced to accountability, yet at the same time they can't object to that, as its part of their primary mandate.

Minarchrist thinking :sneaky:

 

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UnitedCorp-Launches-Suit-against-Bitmain-Bitcoin-com-Roger-Ver-Kraken-Bitcoin-Exchange-and-others-Alleging-Hijacking-of-the-Bitcoin-Cash-Network


"UnitedCorp also alleges that a few days later on November 20th, the ABC development team planted a "poison pill" into the blockchain in the form of a "Deep Reorg Prevention" as well as other functionality in order to cement the control of the blockchain ledger. This intervention allows maintenance of control on future implementations and any related rule sets for future network upgrades."

ABC and anyone who had anything to do with ticker hijacking right now.