Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP.

[ladoga]

Who was it who said paranoia?

Yeah, it's quite a coincidence. First the video of Peter's talk gets lost for several days and then his paper too.

I don't think it's intentional though. Such stunt could easily turn against itself by drawing more attention to his message.

 

[molecular]

If ZAR is "South African Rand" then that's quite exciting. Any explanation for the sudden jump in localbtc volume end of April?

 

[dill]

ZAR supposedly boomed because of a popular ponzi scheme in the area that was fueling demand.

 

[Ivanhoe]

What ponzi? For months long?

 

[dill]

Info on ponzi:

 

[Inca]

Fidelity Effect..

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3lniwl/fidelity_effect/

 

[awemany]

So I broke my vow today and posted on /r/Bitcoin. For my defense, I was quoted by someone and had to react ;-) In this thread.

Why is it that the same old broken arguments get trotted again, and again, and again and AGAIN or /r/Bitcoin, seemingly by both the old trolls + a bunch of new people?

This is so insanely tiring.

 

[Inca]

I think the words you are looking for are conflict of interest!

 

[awemany]

Yeah, but where do all the stupid trolls come from?

 

[Inca]

Most aren't stupid.

And that is the thing with politics and questions of ideology, useful idiots help those with an agenda without even realising it.

 

[awemany]

You are right - most are either stupid or intending to disrupt the discussion by trotting the same old and wrong arguments out repeatedly, with high likelihood on the latter. It is easy to fall into this trap of assuming benevolence on the other side.

 

[AdrianX]

If ZAR is "South African Rand" then that's quite exciting. Any explanation for the sudden jump in localbtc volume end of April?

The surge was accredited to this ponzi switching to bitcoin http://kipisa.com/howitworks/

 

[cypherdoc]

Photo of the year:

 

[ladoga]

How cute. (they look genuinely happy)

But what does "work together" mean in reality?

1. That Core devs will re-evaluate BIP 101 and/or Gavin resumes working on Core?
2. That Core devs have given up the idea that a contentious fork (XT) is fundamentally wrong and that competition between different implementations is welcome?
3. Posing to reassure stakeholders in the bitcoin economy, that everything is fine and tandy?
4. A gesture (as in leading by example) for the community in hopes of making the debate less polarized.

 

[Cconvert2G36]

1. I doubt it. They are too entrenched to adopt 101 as it sits. As I understand it nothing is preventing Gavin from working on Core.
2. I hope the entire exercise has at least informed, if not changed their thoughts about competing implementations.
3. Probably... but meeting in person can sometimes have profound effects in furthering a contentious debate. If two people really are together and talking, not visibly antagonistic.... Why not show it?
4. Yes

 

[chriswilmer]

Hello, first post in the new forum! Glad to see this epic thread back up again.

 

[awemany]

Hi there!

So talking about Epic threads:

If I want to help collecting the best of the arguments and links and so forth pro blocksize-increase in a Wiki somewhere now, where is the best place to do that? I am a bit uncertain due to all the recent shifts in the community.

 

[Bloomie]

@awemany I am open to hosting a wiki here, but for the purposes of putting arguments forward, like you're describing, are you sure that wiki is the best format? Anyone can edit what you wrote in a wiki, and they're kind of difficult to maintain.

Why don't you start your own thread in the Bitcoin Discussion forum? Give it a descriptive title, and you'll get tons of exposure from search engine traffic. We can also help by linking to specific posts on reddit and other forums.

 

[awemany]

@Bloomie, yes, good idea, I should collect links first, I guess.

 

[Peter R]

@awemany : I agree with Bloomie. Start a new thread and just keep revising the first post as you collect more information. I think this would be a worthwhile effort!