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[cypherdoc]

> You asked about BCH dev, and not ABC dev.

i'm obviously asking about ABC/BCH dev, your baby.

>I never said I pushed an ABC commit.

i don't think you pushed any commit at the time; to ABC or BU. i think you lied to me. show me otherwise. but it doesn't matter. my point is, you stopped committing to ABC dev after Dec 2017. and that's an indisputable fact.

>as I did not leave BCH dev since the 2017 fork.

i don't see any ABC commits after Dec 2017 which is what I've been talking about all along. and i don't hear you mentioned in any meaningful ABC dev way since then. afaic, you're done with ABC . the question is why? Mission Accomplished? a split?:

https://reviews.bitcoinabc.org/p/freetrader/

 

[freetrader]

Here's your answer, and everything in there is correct.
Just because a commit is not in ABC or BU doesn't make it a non-BCH commit.
My infrastructure is my own, and none of your business.

I notice in that thread you either deleted all your comments, or (probably) your entire Reddit account.
Typical intelellectually dishonest behavior that I've seen plenty from the Blockstream / Bitcoin Core side. Oh, I forgot - also massively popular on the BSV side.

I observe that before or during you went AWOL on this GCBU thread for a year, you settled a court case with Greg Maxwell. Are the terms of that settlement public?

Since then has the US government by any chance leaned on you?

Blink if you're under duress.

 

[cypherdoc]

>Just because a commit is not in ABC or BU doesn't make it a non-BCH commit.
>My infrastructure is my own, and none of your business.

hiding something, eh? and not willing to back up your claims of continued dev?

my question to you at the time was clearly in reference to ABC since the entire reddit thread was about what everyone perceived as an attack by ABC on BU. YOU are the creator of ABC. I asked for your last commit correctly suspecting that it had been a long time since you'd participated. i only found out I was correct after @Mengerian pointed me to your github. you certainly weren't helpful. it hasn't been since Dec 2017 and the question still stands as to why? especially given ABC's q6mo hard forking strategy with ABC's first hard fork upgrade scheduled just a couple months later for Feb 2018. I would've thought they'd needed alot of help with that to prevent an accidental fork to two chains. as the creator id have thought you'd have some pride of ownership. if I were your employer and you created a new piece of software for me then quit 4m later id be pissed.

>I notice in that thread you either deleted all your comments

it's called shreddit and I use it all the time to delete my reddit history. if a similar tool existed here, I'd do it too. I'd recommend you to do the same. what? are you going to try and deny that I participated in that convo with you? straw man? problem for you is that people here remember me bringing this topic up with all its gory details many times since then and it's all documented right here in this thread. you have egg on your face. stop fighting it.

>you settled a court case with Greg Maxwell. Are the terms of that settlement public?

the difference there is that I haven't made any claims one way or the other about that case since that's not the topic. you, otoh, were responding to my question with what's probably an outright lie to mislead me about your commit history as you already knew I was suspicious of you and your sudden lack of involvement.

>Since then has the US government by any chance leaned on you?

haha, NO. as your probable employer, have they leaned on you, lol?

you blink.

https://reviews.bitcoinabc.org/p/freetrader/

 

[freetrader]

Here's the commit information, without divulging the subject of the commit.

I can use this any time I please to prove what I say has been true (cryptographic hashes, remember?).

commit df4de60f16e3e504296a1c7d5bef3ed6b36b8da0
Author: ftrader <freetrader@tuta.io>
Date: Fri Mar 22 14:41:19 2019 +0100

So

if I were your employer

You would never have the privilege.

 

[cypherdoc]

I still would like to know why you abandoned ABC commits 4mo after you created your baby Aug 2017. "other interests" doesn't add up to me when ABC dev is so tenuous/tedious to begin with with its q6mo hard fork schedule and @deadalnix constantly complaining about the lack of help. you have plenty of time to hang out here all day everyday and diss CSW and BSV, that's for sure.

 

[Norway]

Lorien Gamroff is on fire! Keep up or stay behind!

 

[bitsko]

sometime please tell me this isn't our very own beloved @Griffith who tried to purge BU membership of "non technical people, whatever the hell that means?:

No Kidding? it might be the lawyery buip guy all fucked up by the laws? amazing

 

[cypherdoc]

furthermore, let us not forget that 2015, the year @freetrader popped up here, was the same year GCBU was notoriously and mysteriously locked down over at BCT by Badbear for leading the big block movement. to me, there was some serous psyops going on there to have to have one of the most popular and long running threads shut down like that for political reasons. and looky here, who's still #10 on the all time most prolific posters list after all these years of not posting over there and having been first banned and then my account hacked. I was #1 or 2 at the time. a target? most certainly. but by who?:



yes, I don't believe in coincidence. why is it that we never hear any major democratic gvt come out openly against Bitcoin? it's because we all know how they operate: via Cointelpro tactics. divide and conquer. insinuate themselves into websites as admins/mods, like silk road. gain trust, get close, get control, but always maintain anonymity. and maybe introduce a new weapon of choice: the chain split.

note: I've already alerted everyone here that my BCT account was hacked back then. just for edification, the last two posts by that account over there was by its new owner, whoever that is /was.

 

[freetrader]

So far, on this thread's last two pages:

1. @cypherdoc floats the theory that the ETH developer who got arrested is the same as BU developer with the same surname ("sometime please tell me this isn't our very own beloved @Griffith who tried to purge BU membership of "non technical people, whatever the hell that means?")

2. @lunar ran with it as a curious bystander who does no fact checking and turns this malicious rumor against BCH ("I'd like to know this too. It would certainly add weight to the theory BCH was hijacked by lunatic academics and anarchists, who have either no idea about, or no regard for, the economics of the real world.")

3. @bitsko plays the convinced audience member and re-affirms the untruth ("No Kidding? The lawyery buip guy is all fucked up by the laws? amazing")

Meanwhile, the BU developer's first name is Greg, and the ETH guy's first name is Virgil, all of that is public knowledge, easy to verify that they are not the same person.

Maybe we should introduce KYD ("know-your-developer") into this thread and into BU's membership?

Did you guys stop to think for a second that if they were the same person, mainstream media would have blasted out that he was also a Bitcoin / Bitcoin Unlimited / Bitcoin Cash developer in order to paint Bitcoin developers as irresponsible? Yet all the coverage is only about "an Ethereum developer".

So this thread has turned into a BSV rumor factory. Folks, this is what the smear tactics we know and love from BS/Core looks like. You can witness it on the daily on this thread.

I think @cypherdoc should hang his head in shame at spreading such malicious rumors. If there was any sense of integrity, he would resign as moderator of this thread.

 

[trinoxol]

> PoW decided the issue

Hashrate is only relevant in a "war" if the majority faction attacks and destroys the minority. If there are no attacks both chains continue running on separate consensus rules even if the hashrate differs greatly.

BSV claimed that they would attack but they didn't. In my opinion, they never intended to. It was a confidence game to try to sway as many entities to their side as possible. BCH ran their own kinds of games. Both sides played hard using any means available to them, yet nobody won.

The hashwar was and is a myth.

It's kind of obvious in hindsight. But at the time I was not sure if BSV would actually attack or not. Craig sometimes plays the madman in order to give credibility to his bluffs. By bluff, I mean a threat that, from a game-theoretic perspective, would not make sense for him to execute.

The competition between BCH and BSV has not been decided yet. Current hashrate and price do not matter. Eventually, one of the chains is likely to become irrelevant. It is only at that point that the winner is determined.

 

[freetrader]

A bluff is something one is not willing or able to execute.

Recent Faketoshi bluffs: exposing some alleged flaw in Segwit that would affect both BTC and LTC. Scheduled for November. Didn't happen. Craig and his backers don't have it. In this case it would have made sense to use it, if they had it. Get some much-needed credibility, for once. They could reliably short BTC and LTC, making a ton, which they could convert into BSV, which brings me to the next upcoming bluff.

Upcoming Faketoshi bluff: "bonded courier" to deliver Satoshi's coins in Jan 2020. The announced plan was to crash dump everything except BSV. Let's wait and see, shall we. I think those BSV supporters who want to make money on this "prediction", could do so in bets with certain Core people.

Craig sometimes plays the madman in order to give credibility to his bluffs.

Hahaha, total 7D chess, I'm sure. Why's it all going so wrong? Why don't the courts at least agree with his faked evidence?

 

[bitsko]

lol freetrader

 

[torusJKL]

So this thread has turned into a BSV rumor factory. Folks, this is what the smear tactics we know and love from BS/Core looks like. You can witness it on the daily on this thread.

In @freetrader 's world everything is BSV's fault.

Don't like something: blame BSV.
Life is simple.

 

[cypherdoc]

@cypherdoc floats the theory that the ETH developer who got arrested is the same as BU developer with the same surname ("sometime please tell me this isn't our very own beloved @Griffith who tried to purge BU membership of "non technical people, whatever the hell that means?")

I merely asked someone to please tell me otherwise. and you did. I can accept that as long as it's accurate. anything from your lips though is suspect.
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Maybe we should introduce KYD ("know-your-developer") into this thread and into BU's membership?

it already has been in every other devs case across three separate chains except your identity uniquely/distinctly.

 

[freetrader]

it already has been in every other devs case across three separate chains except your identity uniquely/distinctly.

Tell me more about this database.

 

[cypherdoc]

what database? I'm merely playing off your "KYD" sarcasm to point out that every dev from BTC to BCH to BSV has freely identified themselves publicly. and why not? it's not illegal to dev a coin, no one's been thrown in jail, and devs rightly or wrongly depending on your opinion want to enhance their reputations, build their resumes, and/or potentially profit from their creations. and they stick around to enhance the value of their coins.

except you.
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I think @cypherdoc should hang his head in shame at spreading such malicious rumors. If there was any sense of integrity, he would resign as moderator of this thread.

well now. this is interesting. now I have to worry about how many people are operating your account @freetrader. please take the time to look at your nick sig. YOU ARE THE MODERATOR of this sub/thread. not me. my modship position was revoked years ago by @Bloomie.

 

[freetrader]

@cypherdoc, apparently you don't understand how the "Moderator" descriptor works on this forum.

I am not a moderator of this subforum / thread, as @Bloomie can confirm.

 

[cypherdoc]

I do actually. you forget I was the moderator of this forum originally that had that designation revoked years ago.

typical @freetrader obfuscation. so explain to me how I am the "moderator" of this thread? and what is it specifically that I am supposed to resign from? what privileges do I have over other posters here?

 

[freetrader]

my modship position was revoked years ago by @Bloomie.

I overlooked that, but "I can accept that as long as it's accurate. anything from your lips though is suspect."

In that case, I'll let you know how it works.
If a person creates a subforum on this board, they usually are the moderator of that forum.
In my case, I asked Bloomie whether we could have the "Bitcoin ABC" subforum, which is where I am moderator.

The board just happens to dispay "Moderator" for anyone who is a moderator anywhere.
I don't have any moderation privileges in this thread, and have never asked for any moderation privileges anywhere on this board apart from being granted the ones in "Bitcoin ABC" by @Bloomie.

 

[cypherdoc]

>I overlooked that, but "I can accept that as long as it's accurate. anything from your lips though is suspect."

>The board just happens to dispay "Moderator" for anyone who is a moderator anywhere.

nvm that those two statements together make you look like a fool. but anything to slip in an adhom, right @freetrader?