### VOTING is CLOSED for BUIPs 6,38,40,41 & 42 ###

solex

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Membership vote on BU Improvement Processes

Five BUIPs are open for voting

Please reply to this thread

Votes are for/against or yes/no
Votes can be in the same message e.g. "for x,y,z" or "against a,b,c" where x,y,z etc are BUIP numbers.

Technical BUIPs
BUIP006: Blocktorrent – a torrent-style block data transport [funded]

BUIP038: Revert "Sticky gate"


BUIP040: Emergent Consensus Parameters and Defaults for >1MB blocks

BUIP041: (BUIP038 Counter):

Prevent Minority Hash Power From Injecting Very Large Blocks into the Blockchain

Note that BUIP041 is a counter to BUIP038 so whichever gets the highest number of votes is implemented while the other is not implemented.

Membership BUIP
BUIP042: New Members for Election #34

All listed for membership are considered together i.e. "BUIP042 FOR" or "BUIP042 AGAINST"
Exceptions may be identified by using list number and +/- to include or exclude e.g. -88 +99 or exclusions may be made by name e.g. ZZZ AGAINST
BUIP042 is considered as counted last so new members may not vote on the Technical BUIPs concurrent with this.

Votes need to be signed.


Please get involved. Bitcoin Unlimited is the start of a new paradigm where the membership decides on the admission of new members and operational changes requiring expenditure of funds.

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solex

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BUIP006 FOR
BUIP038 AGAINST
BUIP040 FOR
BUIP041 FOR
BUIP042 FOR, jonny1000 AGAINST, eurovive AGAINST
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Peter Tschipper

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Jan 8, 2016
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BUIP006 NO
BUIP038 NO
BUIP040 NO
BUIP041 YES

BUIP042 @jake YES
BUIP042 @mike YES
BUIP042 @jonny1000 NO
BUIP042 @Rogerver YES
BUIP042 @dgenr8 YES
BUIP042 @Emil Oldenburg YES
BUIP042 @Haiyang YES
BUIP042 @eurovive NO
BUIP042 @Helvetian616 YES
BUIP042 @adamstgbit YES
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pubkey: 1AmdP3nFWSJhkzszXHZNQiJLx7eUGRbzvs
 

theZerg

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Aug 28, 2015
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BUIP006 YES
BUIP038 NO
BUIP040 YES
BUIP041 YES

BUIP042 @jake YES
BUIP042 @mike YES
BUIP042 @jonny1000 NO
BUIP042 @Rogerver YES
BUIP042 @dgenr8 YES
BUIP042 @Emil Oldenburg YES
BUIP042 @Haiyang YES
BUIP042 @eurovive NO -- Nick we don't have much info about you and little participation on the forum. Membership is for those who want to actively vote on issues. Participate more here and then we can reconsider.
BUIP042 @Helvetian616 YES
BUIP042 @adamstgbit YES
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Bagatell

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BUIP006 YES
BUIP038 NO
BUIP040 NO
BUIP041 YES
BUIP042 YES -3 -8
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BUIP006 AGAINST
BUIP038 FOR
BUIP040 FOR
BUIP041 AGAINST
BUIP042 FOR, @eurovive AGAINST

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freetrader

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BUIP006 FOR
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BUIP040 AGAINST
BUIP041 AGAINST
BUIP042 FOR, jonny1000 AGAINST, eurovive AGAINST
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This was a difficult vote, and I'm going to add explanations of why I voted against 040 / 041 at this time to the respective BUIPs.
 

digitsu

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BUIP006 YES

BUIP038 NO

BUIP040 YES

BUIP041 NO

BUIP042 @jake YES

BUIP042 @mike YES

BUIP042 @jonny1000 NO

BUIP042 @Rogerver YES

BUIP042 @dgenr8 YES

BUIP042 @Emil Oldenburg YES

BUIP042 @Haiyang YES

BUIP042 @eurovive NO

BUIP042 @Helvetian616 YES

BUIP042 @adamstgbit YES

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[doublepost=1483002027][/doublepost]I'd like to also point out that between BUIP38 and BUIP41 it isn't a "the one with most votes will be implemented". Voting against both is a vote to keep the current code AS-IS, which is equally valid. (and as you can see, my vote)
( at least until BUIP41 is a bit more tested and polished in terms of AD setting sensitivities )
 
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Norway

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BUIP006 FOR
BUIP038 AGAINST
BUIP040 FOR
BUIP041 FOR
BUIP042 FOR, jonny1000 AGAINST, eurovive AGAINST
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lunar

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BUIP006 FOR
BUIP038 AGAINST
BUIP040 FOR
BUIP041 FOR
BUIP042 FOR, -3,-8
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BU-Key: 1BpYYT2HQzQdz5CFPM1nehCZd1xWPtNbma
 

deadalnix

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BUIP042 @jake YES
BUIP042 @mike YES
BUIP042 @jonny1000 NO
BUIP042 @Rogerver YES
BUIP042 @dgenr8 YES
BUIP042 @Emil Oldenburg YES
BUIP042 @Haiyang YES
BUIP042 @eurovive NO
BUIP042 @Helvetian616 PASS
BUIP042 @adamstgbit PASS

BUIP006 YES
BUIP040
1. YES
2. NO - keep hard limit
3. YES

BUIP038 NO
BUIP041 NO

The state of affaire with BUIP038 and BUIP041 is not clear enough. I would vote for "report" if this was an option. I'm not per se against these proposal, I just think this needs to be fleshed out more.
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Bu key: 1KEaWZ7tpLF4n5xFf5bpTPff7G7uJZiDGw
 
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BUIP006: No

BUIP042: Yes for everybody except Jonny1000

BUIP038/040/041: No/No/No. The vote seems to early, since the technical discussion is not solved. Voting should only substitute a technical consensus if there is the thread of stalling. This is not the case with this BUIPS.

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(Address is 1BvayiASVCmGmg4WUJmyRHoNevWWo5snqC)
 

chriswilmer

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BUIP038 AGAINST
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BUIP041 FOR
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After carefully reading discussions for each BUIP, I am somewhat surprised people are voting for BUIP006... the discussion seems to kind of trail off with people saying "yeah, we probably don't need this." If the answer is, :"well, it's a small amount of money and it *might* be useful" then yeah, sure, I agree with that. I'm just wondering if that's the rationale others have or if I am missing something.
 

Roy Badami

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The argument seems to be that BUIP006 will give us gains over Xthin as we scale above 8-10MB. I confess I don't understand why that should be - but I abstained from voting on this BUIP because I haven't followed the discussion closely enough to have an opinion. On the flip side, I'm in favour of experimenting with novel block propagation strategies and new peer-to-peer network designs if it has the potential to be beneficial. I just don't know enough to vote on this. But we should probably take this discussion to the BUIP006 thread...
 
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digitsu

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BUIP006 YES

BUIP038 NO

BUIP040 YES

BUIP041 NO

BUIP042 @jake YES

BUIP042 @mike YES

BUIP042 @jonny1000 NO

BUIP042 @Rogerver YES

BUIP042 @dgenr8 YES

BUIP042 @Emil Oldenburg YES

BUIP042 @Haiyang YES

BUIP042 @eurovive NO

BUIP042 @Helvetian616 YES

BUIP042 @adamstgbit YES

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[doublepost=1483002027][/doublepost]I'd like to also point out that between BUIP38 and BUIP41 it isn't a "the one with most votes will be implemented". Voting against both is a vote to keep the current code AS-IS, which is equally valid. (and as you can see, my vote)
( at least until BUIP41 is a bit more tested and polished in terms of AD setting sensitivities )
=====amendment begin
I didn't think of voting in a 'partial' way as Deadalnix just did. I was really just interested in the sigops limit counting in BUIP040 anyhow, so I would like to amend my BUIP040 vote to
BUIP040
1. YES
2. NO - keep hard limit
3. YES

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Peter R

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BUIP006 NO

BUIP042 @jake YES
BUIP042 @mike YES
BUIP042 @jonny1000 NO
BUIP042 @Rogerver YES
BUIP042 @dgenr8 YES
BUIP042 @Emil Oldenburg YES
BUIP042 @Haiyang YES
BUIP042 @eurovive NO
BUIP042 @Helvetian616 YES
BUIP042 @adamstgbit YES
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I'm voting NO to BUIP006 because we've already invested considerably in Xthin / Xpedited, which IMO is a superior solution.

I'm voting against @eurovive because I don't have enough information about him, and I'm voting against @jonny1000 because I don't believe his vision for Bitcoin Unlimited is inline with the other members. I am very happy to have all the other applicants apply and think they'll make great members!

I'm abstaining from the three other BUIPs; I think we need better clarity on what exactly we're trying to achieve on these topics.

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BUIP038 YES
BUIP040 YES
BUIP041 YES
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I'm voting for BUIP040 because miners want this in order to run Bitcoin Unlimited (note that this is NOT changing the default block size limit!).

As far as BUIP038 / BUIP041, I'm partial to 038 but I'm voting for both because I think both would be improvements.
 
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